What To Do When You Don’t Get The Roll Over Signal When Inducing Sleep Paralysis

Here’s a question I got:

I have joined Lucidology, and I have watched most of the first videos on you tube (videos by LucidDreamTricks) I have tried the “Relaxation” technique and the “Stop, Drop and Roll” technique in the videos. And I cannot seem to do them right… In part 5, (fast relaxation for Lucid Dreams and OBEs) when I go to bed, I first do all the exercises that I read from a piece of paper that I wrote down all the steps on, and when I get to before the “Roll” step, I don’t feel the “Roll Over Signal” at all… And I wait there lying on my back with my arms out to the side, for ages, but I feel no urge to roll onto my side… What am I doing wrong? I have tried the techniques 2 days in a row, and I can’t feel the signal, It’s 8:06 PM now, and i am going to go to bed between 9:30PM & 10:00 PM, please I really need some help, I usually have trouble going to sleep anyway, even if I am tired, and I could probably benefit from your techniques. Oh, and I am 13 years old.

BTW you can download PDFs of each video to print out at <a href=http://www.lucidology.com/101

Just click the link for each video and there's a box for the pdf. The roll signal only happens when the body is *unsure* if the mind is awake. If it actually is sure, then it will paralyse without the roll signal. However in your case you're not getting the roll signal at all which means:

1.) The body isn't tired enough
2.) The body isn't relaxed enough

If you really are deeply relaxed then the problem may be lack of serotonin from daytime sunlight. Make a habit of getting up at dawn and eating breakfast outside in the sun. That will ensure you get lots of sunlight and if you stay awake from 6 am to 9 pm you'll be plenty tired at bedtime.

Also, check out these Lucidology 101 videos on “How To Cure Insomnia”

Good luck!

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One Response to “What To Do When You Don’t Get The Roll Over Signal When Inducing Sleep Paralysis”

  1. phillip says:

    phillip says:
    March 28, 2011 at 10:54 am

    hi, i did ramp method with timer , the 2nd time or 3rd time the timer beeps i cannot get asleep any more.

    if i wake up at 4:30 i cannot sleep fast in 8 minutes. 8 minutes is the first ramp interval in the default timer setting.

    any clue? I’m stuck and this is not working for me.

    phillip says:
    March 28, 2011 at 11:21 am


    hi, i did ramp method with timer , the 2nd time or 3rd time the timer beeps i cannot get asleep any more.


    i mean, i can but one hour later and can’t use the timer because the timer beeps but i keep awake hearing the beeps. once i’m asleep the timer intervals has ended

    cannot sleep cos i feel no weariness

    i fell really Rested.

    i can’t use the “Stop, Drop & Roll” method because i don’t feel tired any more, i feel full of energy even if i have not rested a bunch of hours and even if does a little time that I have remained slept full tired
    phillip says:
    March 29, 2011 at 10:40 am

    phillip says:
    March 28, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    Trick You Can Use Tonight To Have Your 1st Obe

    So here’s the actual method to use to have conscious sleep paralysis for the first time or even an O.B.E.

    1.) Go to bed at 9 PM

    2.) Get up at 4:30 AM

    3.) Stay up for 45 minutes until 5:15 AM and avoid lights

    4.) Go back to bed and do “Stop Drop And Roll” to start to fall asleep

    5.) At the end of S.D.R set your timer to use a ramp timer session. Fall asleep and let the timer wake you up and put you in an O.B.E.

    that’s the trick!!! yeah!!

    phillip says:
    March 29, 2011 at 10:39 am

    i did it, have heard the beep a couple of times, not moved at all, NO PARALYSIS, 2nd or 3rd time i heard the beep… I JUST HAVE FELL ASLEEP TO THE ANOTHER DAY, COULD NOT HEARD THE REST OF BEEPING

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